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Author: nickssquire12

Historian and college student in Arizona. My main areas of study are women's history, World War II/The Holocaust, The War Between the States, and Revolutionary War History. I am also a member of the National Society Daughters of the American Revolution.

Historic Pinal Cemetery

Posted on December 30, 2020January 16, 2022 by nickssquire12
Informational Sign Near the Cemetery Entrance

Over the Christmas 2020 weekend, I hit the road once again, this time with my mom, dad, and brother with me.

Okay, to be fair, my dad drove while he and my brother took my mom and I out to the Historic Pinal Cemetery. This graveyard is located about forty miles from our house, just outside Superior, Arizona, and is definitely not as easy to find as our last stop at Adamsville/Butte View outside Florence. To get to Historic Pinal, you need a vehicle equipped to drive off road and some good old fashioned sense of direction. Google Maps gets you kind of close, but you need to know what you're looking for in order to actually find the spot.

My dad and brother last visited the cemetery around fifteen to seventeen years ago by their best estimation, but typical of my dad, he was able to find the cemetery after a quick five minute walk from where we parked.

I took a quick reference photo for all of you, in case you need some help finding the place. For one thing, the entire cemetery is surrounded by a wire fence, and there is the one big metal sign at one end (see the top photo of me standing beside it). However, if you approach the cemetery from the opposite side, like my family did, you might not see the sign. Therefore, this image will probably be helpful. To find the cemetery, you first need to locate this:

Power Lines Near the Cemetery

If you see this power line juncture, you know you're close. You're literally within sight of the cemetery, by the way.

Once inside the actual graveyard, you'll quickly notice there are very few actual graves that are identifiable today. Most of the graves are only marked with a circle of stones, some of which are marked with white paint. The majority of those buried in the cemetery are women and children, and no one has been buried in the graveyard since 1916, when another cemetery opened in the actual city limits of Superior.

One of the graves at Historic Pinal

The following photos are all from within Historic Pinal. These are the graves I spotted that are better marked. Unfortunately this cemetery is less cared for than those outside Florence, but I am glad the limits are at least fenced off now.

One of the better marked Historic Pinal graves
Marked with a cross, Historic Pinal
A marked grave at Historic Pinal
This marble grave marker is nearly impossible to read in the Arizona sun
This marble grave marker is nearly impossible to read in the Arizona sun
This is the most intricate marker in the cemetery as of 2020
This is the most intricate marker in the cemetery as of 2020

Despite signage requesting no new additions or flowers being added to the cemetery, it is clear someone ignored that request with this marker.

This poor marker is cracked and hidden under a bush
This poor marker is cracked and hidden under a bush

The vast majority of visitors to Historic Pinal are there for one reason: to see the grave of Mattie Blaylock, who was the girlfriend of famed gunslinger Wyatt Earp. Unfortunately, though Mattie is buried somewhere within the confines of Historic Pinal, her actual gravesite has been lost.

Today, a memorial cenotaph has been placed at the entrance to Historic Pinal, pictured below in a photograph I took while visiting.

This marker was placed by the overseers of the cemetery
This marker was placed by the overseers of the cemetery

Unfortunately that's about all there is to see at Historic Pinal. Maybe someday Mattie Blaylock's actual gravesite will be rediscovered. Maybe someday the little cemetery hidden behind the abandoned railroad tracks will be kept up better once again. For now though, this little graveyard really does belong under the banner of "Abandoned Cemetery of the Old West."

Hopefully soon we'll be able to take another trip to visit another burial ground. None of the others on our list are as close as Historic Pinal, Butte View, or Adamsville are to where we live, so we'll have to wait and see. For now though, I hope you enjoyed reading and virtually visiting this historic graveyard.

Celebrating 1,000 Women (And Counting!)

Posted on December 24, 2020January 16, 2022 by nickssquire12

Just a quick note to celebrate this historic milestone. After gathering data and stories for five years, I am now proud to say the first 1,000 women have been posted to this website, where their stories will live on forever. We have seen criminals, victims, scientists, mathematicians, lawyers, advocates, survivors, artists, musicians, actresses, innkeepers, warriors, royalty, and so much more.

I now know I have over six hundred more women to go, but I wanted to mark the date as the first 1,000 appeared. Today, Christmas Eve, 24 December 2020, officially marks that day. Entry number one, Hypatia of Alexandria, and entry number one thousand, Claressa Shields, have led completely different lives than just about anyone, but that's even more perfect in a way. These two women represent how varied and wonderful the human story is, and how each story impacts the world in such a different way.

Thank you, to anyone reading this, to anyone who has supported me over the years, and to everyone who will continue or begin to support me in the future. None of this would have been possible without you, and I will always be grateful.

To 1,000 more eventually! (And a special note of appreciation for the 200 men who have active profiles on this site as well. We won't forget you either, and I'm proud to say I have about twenty more on the way...)

-The Exasperated Historian Herself, Zoë

Adamsville and Butte View Cemeteries (Florence, Arizona)

Posted on December 2, 2020January 16, 2022 by nickssquire12

In October of 2020, I casually purchased a copy of Graveyards of the Wild West: Arizona by Heather L Moulton and Susan Tatterson from my local Barnes and Noble. After thumbing through the book, my mother and I decided it would be fun to take several road trips around our state to visit these Old West cemeteries to see what we could find. Yes, we are those kind of people (the kind that find visiting cemeteries fun!).

So with the long Thanksgiving weekend in sight, we set out to drive down to Florence, which is about forty minutes from where we live. Down in Florence you will find two cemeteries that lay back to back: Butte View and Adamsville (named after the town of the same name that no longer exists--Adamsville was washed away when the Gila River flooded in the early 1900's!).

Most of the graves date to before Arizona became a state in 1912, but several others are from much later. Adamsville covers more land area and has more graves, but they are spread out and not as well kept up as Butte View. Butte View has a gravel path linking all of the graves, the majority of which are marked with a plain white cross and the words "Unknown Grave" with a number and any information about the deceased that might be known. While in Butte View, my mother and I noticed a baby girl buried there was celebrating her 120th birthday that very weekend (gravesite pictured below).

Margaret's grave has a white cross and a small placard explaining her name, birth and death dates.

Margaret Truman was only a few months old when she died in 1900. Her gravesite was recently restored in time for us to visit near her 120th birthday.

The other notable grave in Butte View, at least according to Graveyards of the Wild West, is the three Butte View "Witches". I must confess, the witches are the reason my mom and I were most interested in visiting the cemetery. According to the book, the three witches are buried outside the confines of the cemetery; their graves are unmarked but were later adorned by visitors. Interestingly enough, this is not at all what you see at Butte View today. After comparing photos from the book with the graves in the cemetery while we were there, my mother and I discovered the three graves now have markers indicating the birth and death dates, along with the names of those buried there. So now the question is, are the graves really those of "witches" and someone created fake names and identities for the graves, or were the authors of the book fed false information? If I'm ever back in Florence when the local historical society is open, I'll have to stop in and ask a few questions...

Three graves marked with concrete slabs surrounded by a white fence

According to the book, these graves are of the three Butte View "Witches", but according to the graves themselves, these three individuals are men of the same family

The three "witches" graves at Butte View cemetery, as shown in Graveyards of the Wild West
The three "witches" graves at Butte View cemetery, as shown in Graveyards of the Wild West

Heading over to Adamsville, you'll find another notable grave. Way out here in the middle of nowhere (practically anyway), you'll find the grave of a Confederate Veteran, the only veteran of the War Between the States in this area of Arizona. His name was Granville Oury, and he has a traditional marker as provided by the United States Government for veteran graves (note the pointed tip at the top; Union veterans have rounded tops to their headstones). Besides the traditional grave marker, Captain Oury also has a rock engraved with the Confederate Battle Flag and more information about his life. The two markers are side by side out there in the desert.

 

Captain Oury's government issue marker is on the top of this image while the engraved polished stone is beneath. I took both of these photos in November of 2020

Located in the Adamsville Cemetery, Captain Granville Oury is the only Confederate veteran buried in either of these cemeteries.

Some of the other graves in Adamsville I took photos of include a judge, two children buried back to back, and a hand engraved stone with little information. Another marker has completely broken off the original pedestal and now lays flush with the ground. Adamsville is a stark contrast to Butte View, to say the least. What's remarkable about the two cemeteries is the fact that they are side by side, only a few hundred yards apart. One (Butte View) is well cared for, clean, and welcoming to visitors. Adamsville is the complete opposite; surrounded by sharp wire fencing, with dilapidated headstones that are nearly worn away and no one there to clean them up or restore them.

This simple headstone marks the final resting place of a judge from before Arizona became a state
This simple headstone marks the final resting place of a judge from before Arizona became a state
Two Children Buried Back to Back

The headstone in front is for a young girl who died before her third birthday. Directly behind her stone is a small marker in the shape of a box for a boy who died at one and a half years old (the box is peeking out to the left of the girl's stone in this photo)

Hand Engraved Headstone

This simple headstone is a concrete slab with a hand engraved marker that lists the deceased's name and years they lived

Broken Grave Marker

This grave marker has broken off the pedestal base. The majority of the upright stone now lays behind the base on the desert floor

I'll end this short tour of the headstone back at Butte View Cemetery. Right in the center is a large wagon wheel made of rocks. Why the wagon wheel is there, other than being decorative, I have no idea. The only explanation is a sign saying the design is a wagon wheel. Whatever reason, I thought it looked cool and snapped a photo, so here it is for you all to enjoy as well.

Located in Butte View is this artistic wagon wheel circle made of rocks
Located in Butte View is this artistic wagon wheel circle made of rocks

Someday soon we hope to also visit the following historic cemeteries in Arizona:

  • Historic Pinal (Outside Superior)
  • Pearce (Outside Tombstone)
  • Boothill (Tombstone)
  • Jerome (Jerome)
  • Arizona Pioneers (Prescott)
  • Grand Canyon Pioneer (Outside the Grand Canyon in Northern Arizona)

Hopefully once the Covid health scare calms down and we're able to travel more, I and other members of my family will be able to visit other historic cemeteries around the United States.

There are two other "historic" cemeteries I've also visited: Arlington National in Arlington, Virginia, where our nation's heroes are laid to rest, and the City of Mesa Cemetery in my hometown of Mesa, Arizona. I now have fifteen relatives and friends buried in the City of Mesa Cemetery, and I try to visit them all once a month if not more often. Visiting cemeteries is a great way to learn local history and also say hello to some of history's forgotten every day people.

So the next time you drive by a scenic or abandoned cemetery, stop in and say hello. You never know whose story you might learn by doing so.

Remembering Lieutenant Laura Piper & The Other Victims of the Black Hawk Shootdown

Posted on August 3, 2019January 16, 2022 by nickssquire12

Lieutenant Laura Piper (Number to Be Determined)

Historian’s Note: This Blog Post will eventually be moved to an actual list entry on the Women’s List, once I have the list caught up. I finished reading Laura’s story last night and knew I had to upload it as soon as possible.

The Pentagon Is Wrong

Born: 18 March 1969, United States Air Force Academy at Colorado Springs, Colorado, United States of America

Died: 14 April 1994, the No-Fly Zone near Irbil, Iraq

My journey into knowing Laura’s story came on a complete whim, a twist of fate that could have easily not happened.

This summer, my grandma is staying up in the Mountains to escape the summer heat (We’re in Arizona, so yeah…). In any case, my grandma and my aunt called one day to say they had found a treasure trove of books and were wondering if I was interested. They read off a list of titles to me and then said they had a few more they’d already bought.

The next week, my aunt comes home, and she and my cousin drop off two plastic bags of books—thirteen in all. And while some I quickly added to the ranks of my library shelves without reading, one caught my attention. It was A Chain of Events: The Government Cover-up of the Black Hawk Incident and the Friendly-Fire Death of Lt. Laura Piper by Joan L Piper. I consider myself well versed in our government’s history, but I had never heard the name Laura Piper, and the only Black Hawk Incident I’d ever heard of was the movie Black Hawk Down (completely unrelated incidents).

So, I opened the book. Three days later, I finished the story, and here I am the next morning, and I am pissed. So, here’s the story, and why from here on out my new life motto for when anything ever goes wrong will be The Pentagon Is Wrong (Which is a quote from the book, but we’ll get to that).

Lt. Piper had just turned twenty-five years old. Her father had recently retired from the Air Force after twenty-six years, and Laura and her brother Dan had joined up. Laura had already graduated from the Air Force Academy, and Dan would be doing the same the following month.

Laura was also engaged, to another Dan (and her dad was Danny—I know, it got a little confusing reading it at times). Her youngest brother Sean was ten. Laura had loving parents, siblings, and was going to start planning her wedding soon. She was stationed in Germany but had been sent to Turkey for a few months. Laura had just come back from a two-week vacation with her fiancé, Dan, in Egypt. She had everything to live for.

On the morning of April 14th, 1994, Laura was one of twenty-six passengers aboard Eagle Flight, the code name for the two Black Hawk helicopters that would be flying over something called the No-Fly Zone. The zone had been set up around a hostile area in Turkey and Iraq (remember, this was just after the Gulf War and Desert Storm). Incirlik Air Force Base was the home of the Air Force at the time as they worked on something called OPC or Operation Provide Comfort, where Britain, France, the United States, and Turkey provided supplies and humanitarian aid to the Kurdish people, who have no country of their own and were living in the area.

Back to the morning of April 14th. The Black Hawk helicopters, aka Eagle Flight, were flying between Zakhu in Iraq to another small city called Irbil.

This is where I highly recommend you read A Chain of Events. I could not possibly list everything that went wrong over the next few hours, days, and years, mostly because I am not a professional or in the know how on all the military lingo, but I’ll do my best.

There were four aircraft in the No-Fly Zone that morning: the two Black Hawks, and two F-15 Fighter Jets. Outside the No-Fly Zone was an aircraft referred to as AWACS, you’ve probably seen it. The large airplane with the spinning disk on top that does reconnaissance, tracking aircraft in the area and keeping watch of the skies.

Yes, you read that right, keeping track of aircraft.

This AWACS team failed. They failed in their mission so badly, twenty-six innocent people ended up dead. One of the crew members was sleeping, one was eating in another room, one couldn’t account for where he was at the time, one was looking at the wrong area of the radar screen, and on and on it goes. AWACS lost track of Eagle Flight and assumed they had landed somewhere. Helicopters often fly so low to the ground radar has a hard time keeping track of them, but no, they hadn’t landed, they were still flying.

The two F-15 fighter pilots had one mission that morning: protect AWACS.

Before they took to the skies, Dan (Laura’s fiancé) briefed them on the possible things they might encounter while in the skies that day. He thought about mentioning Laura would be on Eagle Flight but decided not to mention the helicopters, wanting to stay professional.

So, just before 10:30 AM, on April 14th, 1994, the two pilots came across two helicopters in the No-Fly Zone. They falsely identified them as Soviet Hind Helicopters, obviously being flown by Iraqis. No Hind helicopters had ever flown over this area during the entirety of Operation Private Comfort, which had started in 1991. The pilots failed to properly identify the helicopters (as was later proved by two separate flight tests—one by the Air Force and one by a Senate Hearing conducted by the US Army). The pilots reacted immediately—identifying them as enemy agents. They violated the Rules of Engagement, and moved way too quickly.

Eight minutes after first falsely identifying the Black Hawks as Hind Helicopters, twenty-six bodies were smoldering on the ground. The pilots had fired two different types of missiles, and two Black Hawks had blown up and hit the dirt. After the trailing Helicopter was shot down, the lead Black Hawk tried to escape, as the pilots later testified, but they shot it down anyway.

After they were downed, one of the pilots said, “Stick a Fork in them, they’re done!”

The reason the pilots shot down the Black Hawks? That’s not entirely clear either. The pilots claimed they shot them down because they were trying to protect AWACS, as was their job, but that makes less than zero sense. For one thing, AWACS hadn’t entered the No-Fly Zone yet, they were nowhere near each other. And for another, the Black Hawks were flying in the complete opposite direction of where the AWACS was currently located on their flight.

Within minutes, both AWACS and the Air Force officers back at Incirlik Air Force Base in Turkey knew Eagle Flight was missing. They knew the pilots had shot down their own. The Air Force, and later the Defense Department, were about to start one of the biggest government cover-ups in recent history.

By the time they were done, eleven Air Force members “involved” in the flight would be reprimanded in some way. And by reprimanded, I mean ten had letters written against them—none of them to stay in their record permanently. An eleventh faced a court martial and was found not guilty. The pilot who had first falsely identified them and then made the remark about the fork? He was given immunity to testify—without ever asking for it in the first place.

The Defense Department fought the Black Hawk Families (as the families of the victims began to call themselves) for a year on whether the fallen soldiers would receive Purple Hearts. Their reason? They claimed the victims were not killed in a combat zone (they were) and that therefore they did not qualify for our nation’s oldest award.

This is the part of the book where my favorite phrase came into play—The Pentagon Is Wrong. That’s how Joan, Laura’s mother, phrased it when Danny, Laura’s father, continued his fight to see the Pentagon and the Air Force bestow the Purple Heart on the fallen.

After Congressional pressure, they finally caved a week before the one-year anniversary.

Months after the disaster, the Defense Department also announced they would be paying the families of the foreign nationals on the flights—eleven families from France, England, and Turkey would receive $100,000 each for the loss of their loved ones. The American families would get nothing.

Also, around that time, the Air Force decided to station both the first pilot who had shot down the second Black Hawk, the one Laura was in, and the man in charge of the entire Incirlik Air Force Base, in San Antonio at the base there. The problem? Lt. Piper’s family, and one of the other Black Hawk families, lived in San Antonio. It was like the Air Force just wanted to punish these families as much as they could.

All that sounds horribly frustrating enough. But it gets worse.

Once the families realized the Defense Department had lied and would not reprimand those responsible in any meaningful way, the Black Hawk Families began putting pressure on Congress. Finally, the Senate announced they would be doing an investigation into not just the accident, but the circumstances that occurred afterward.

For nearly a year, Senator Roth and the rest of the committee looked through thousands of documents, listened to testimony from witnesses that day, and conducted a thorough investigation the likes of which the Air Force had done but just hidden the evidence afterward. Finally, the Senate Committee asked for four high ranking Air Force officials to testify about the shoot down. The Defense Department refused to comply. The Senate Committee threatened to subpoena, and the Defense Department continued to stonewall them. Finally, the Senate finally did send subpoenas.

The Defense Department’s response? This is the letter Senator Roth received from their lawyer:

“You have signed subpoenas that would require four officers to appear before your staff to justify their quasi-judicial acts. We have been advised by the Department of Justice that these subpoenas lack legal force and effect because they were issued after the adjournment of sine die of the 104th Congress. Accordingly, each of the concerned officers has been directed not to appear at the times and places stated in the subpoenas.” (Emphasis placed by me).

Yes, you read that right. The Defense Department refused to allow the Air Force to testify, protected them, more like. Senator Roth was now facing pressure from not just the Department of Defense, but from other senators as well.

As an Arizonan, this next part pissed me off the most. Last year, in 2018, Senator John McCain died. I was one of the few that was not at all upset, and this next part just made my resolve even more set as to why I am actually glad that man has no more impact on the goings on of our government.

From A Chain of Events: “Senator John McCain of Arizona, a former naval officer and Vietnam prisoner of war, personally sends a letter to Senator Roth asking him bluntly to back off. The Senate subcommittee notices that some of the paragraphs in Senator McCain’s letter are reproduced verbatim from the earlier letter sent by Deputy Secretary White. Roth has always held Senator McCain in high esteem, and this request is hurtful because Roth believes McCain’s first loyalty should be to the Black Hawk families, not to the Department of Defense,” (Piper 225).

Isn’t that nice? Because of the unanswered subpoenas and all the pressure from within the government, Senator Roth had no choice but to drop the hearing.

When the book was published in 2000, none of the people involved in the Black Hawk Incident had faced any real consequences for their actions. With the exception of one man, who had already put in his notice for retirement, all their careers continued on, allowing them to move to higher positions within the Air Force.

In the late 1990’s, the Federal Government started looking into whether or not they should award the American Black Hawk families monetary restitution for their loss. As of the publishing of the book, they had not received any yet, despite Congress deciding in 1999 to award the families money.

Despite President Bill Clinton promising the families that those responsible would face consequences, he refused to interfere and see it happen. The Piper family alone sent him at least two letters on two separate occasions. The White House never responded, or even acknowledged that they had received the letters.

In 1994 alone, sixty people were killed and 100 injured in Four major accidents involving the Air Force, with the Black Hawk Incident only accounting for twenty-six of those deaths in one of the “accidents”. The reason why none of this stayed in the national conscience for long? 1994 was also the year Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson were murdered.

If you want to know the names of those involved in the shoot down, the ones who should have been punished yet were not, you can read the book, but I will not share their name and allow them to become more famous than those that died that day. Here are the names you should remember, the twenty-six that lost their lives that day.

From the United States Military:

SSG Paul Barclay

SPC Cornelius A Bass

SPC Jeffrey C Colbert

SPC Mark A Ellner

CW2 John W Garrett Jr

CW2 Michael A Hall

SFC Benjamin T Hodge

CPT Patrick M McKenna

WO1 Erik S Mounsey

COL Richard A Mulhern

1LT Laura A Piper

SGT Michael S Robinson

SSG Ricky L Robinson

Ms. Barbara L Schnell

COL Jerald L Thompson

From the British Military:

MAJ Harry Shapland

LTC Jonathan C Swann

From the French Military:

LTC Guy Demetz

From the Turkish Military:

COL Hikmet Alp

LT Ceyhun Civas

LT Barlas Gultepe

Kurdish Partisans also on Eagle Flight:

Abdulsatar Arab

Ghandi Hussein

Bader Mikho

Ahmed Mohammed

Salid Said

This post is for Laura, and all of you as well. You will never be forgotten, and I can only hope that by remembering you, the rest of us can fight for the truth and remember to never trust everything we blindly hear from the Department of Defense.

Badges Earned:
Find a Grave Marked

Located in my personal Library: A Chain of Events: The Government Cover-up of the Black Hawk Incident and the Friendly-Fire Death of Lt. Laura Piper by Joan L Piper

Sources:
A Chain of Events by Joan L Piper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Black_Hawk_shootdown_incident

https://www.blackfive.net/main/2004/04/remembering_eag.html

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/151484200/laura-ashley-piper

When History Comes Alive in Your Genealogy

Posted on July 23, 2019January 16, 2022 by nickssquire12

My Relationship to Charles "The Boss" Kettering

Screenshot showing how I am descended from Idella
My great-grandmother Idella with her husband Harold
Idella's Obituary
The Boss, himself

Have you ever heard a family story that made you raise your eyebrow, or maybe scoff in disbelief?

Let's say someone tells you you're descended from someone famous. Sometimes the rumor is true, and you can go on your way telling the world you are related to say, George Washington (if you are, cool!).

Sometimes though, the connection is a little harder to quantify, and a little harder to describe. Take mine for example. Family lore has long stated we are descended from Charles Kettering, and while his name isn't as well-known as say, George Washington, he still is famous in his own way.

Charles is most known for helping to create the first electric cash register and for inventing the first electric ignition system for cars. A family joke between my grandma and I is that it's a little pathetic we have such a hard time figuring out how cash registers work when we're related to the Boss himself!

Anyway, so, how am I related to the Boss? Well, when my aunt called to ask me that question a few weeks ago I went to WikiTree and started listing out names and little arrows on a small scrap of paper. When I was done, I called my aunt and my grandma back with the news.

My grandmother's, grandmother's grandfather Heinrich's brother was named Jacob, and one of his son's was Charles.

Huh?

My little arrows pointed like this= Zoe (that's me)-->Lisa (My mom)--> Ruth (my grandma)-->Mary Margaret (not from Once Upon a Time, but my great-grandmother)-->Idella May (her picture is included in this article, my great-great-grandmother)-->Franklin (my great-great-great-grandfather)-->(Heinrich, my great-great-great-great-grandfather) brother of Jacob, whose son was Charles Kettering.

I know, that's a lot of names and arrows, but we're related all the same.

History is my main passion (obviously by looking at this website) but Genealogy is my back-up love. I once earned the Club 1,000 Badge on WikiTree for making 1,000+ contributions to the site in that month alone, not that I'm bragging or anything!). I always encourage people to investigate their family genealogy and history in general.

If you ever have any questions, comment down below or send me a personal inquiry through the email service and I'll get back to you!

For some early starts, here are the sites I recommend for getting started:

WikiTree (if you already have a solid place to start and know information, they'll ask you to start contributing right away--and hey, it's free!)

FamilySearch: A common misconception about Family Search is that you have to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints to use their genealogy services, but that's simply not true (for proof, I'm not LDS myself but I use their site all the time--and it's free as well! FamilySearch is a great place to start if you have less information, but be warned, they do not have to provide accurate sources for their information, so always back it up if possible!)

Ancestry: You've probably heard of Ancestry, their ads are everywhere by this point, but in case you haven't, Ancestry is another genealogy gathering website. It has both positives and negatives. For one thing, you have to pay a subscription to use their site, and for another, you are responsible for ensuring the information you see in front of your screen is accurate to the person you're researching (Ancestry once gave me a Yearbook entry "Supposedly" for my grandfather--only it was from ten years after he graduated high school!).

And finally, independent research.

When I was pulling together my application for The National Society Daughters of the American Revolution, I had to find the applicable documents to prove my lineage to my patriot ancestor. I had birth certificates and death certificates for myself, my parents, and my grandparents, but when I got to my great-grandparents, I hit a rut. New York law states that a death certificate can only be obtained by a child of the dead person in question for the first fifty years after the person's death. Unfortunately for me, my great-grandfather's last child died in 2010, and the fifty-year mark won't hit until 2022. Therefore, I had to look to my great-grandmother.

I turned to the local Historical Society in her area (Shout out to the Ladies at the Clearfield County Historical Society, you rock!). For a small donation amount, a check I simply put in the mail, I received in return every piece of paperwork filed after my great-grandmother's death to the state. Voila, I had everything I needed to complete my application, and in May I became a fully-fledged national member of NSDAR.

Moral of the story, never discount the locals in the area you are researching!

Happy Genealogical Hunting!

The Trouble With Find a Grave

Posted on July 18, 2019January 16, 2022 by nickssquire12

By now you've most likely seen my various listings and references to the website Find a Grave. This website is amazing for a plethora of reasons, but it has its faults as well, and that is what I wanted to focus on today.

So, what's the big deal? Well...as any good teacher will tell you, you need to source everything, especially in the day and age of Wikipedia and people pretending to be French models on dating apps. Find a Grave allows someone to post literally whatever they want about whoever they want, with no consequences. Several of the "Famous" people I've added to my virtual libraries have inaccurate information on them, but unless the person who controls the memorial page accepts the corrections nothing can be done. So be weary of what you cite from that website, and always do your best to back up anything you do use from that cite. This isn't such a big deal when your leaving virtual flowers on the graves of family members a thousand miles away, but actual scholarly journals? Eek! They even "trick" you slightly. If you scroll to the very bottom of the page you can click on the "Source Citation" for the specific memorial, but all it says is the name of the account who created the page and the number of the memorial in question :/

That's the main issue with Find a Grave, but I also have a personal problem with them, and that problem is--Drum Roll Please--the Famous Badge. I honestly do not understand how the badge works. I've applied for it on numerous of the pages I've created, and I get rejected every time! The people who run Find a Grave have a very specific set of rules you must follow in order to be named "Famous" but even when you follow them to the letter--they reject you! My latest example of this is on my profile for Lisa del Giocondo (entry coming to the website eventually):  https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/200764348/lisa-del_giocondo

I followed their guidelines to a T and was still denied the Famous Badge for failing to follow their guidelines (and they never tell you what you did wrong either). It exasperates me to no end (see what I did there) so if you get frustrated too, just know you are not alone!

That's all for this one friends, toodles! -The Exasperated Historian

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